Just for your information, the JAM is the result of 10 years of plugins and packages, and of support of tens of images. So you have to select what you need, and everyone else will do the same, and naturally will do it for their own install and selected image (that most probably will not be as you, same image and same needs/plugins).

So, it's a question of installing what you want and need, for the image you have. JAM plugins are not exclusively for OpenPLi... it's for many images. You only have 1 section for OpenPLi 4/5/6/7, that one is only for your image. Others are NOT intended for the image you use. You can try other's images plugins, at your own risk.

For the space, the image has around 3.5 Mb of flash memory available and there is a TIPS section with a lot of infos, on how to move folders to external Flash, or removal of things not used (like languages)... but I think you forgot to take a look on the TIPS section seeing your descriptions,... see below.

TIPS : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=79&page=1

Concerning OpenPLi, we are not the creator and just port the OpenPLi to boxes that are not supported anymore... so we don't decide how is the image. The various plugins work, and are updated directly at every compilation. If something fails, it's related to the Plugin authors...

But the 3.5 Mb of Free Flash memory should be enough for everybody,... naturally not for people who want to load Skins, as skins generally require are few Mb of Flash memory... so if you want "extra cosmetics" then naturally you have to free some space and loose in functionnalities... in our side we prefer functionnalities to useless drivers and skins ;o)... every user and that's the good of linux images, can then modify the image and tune it per his needs.

Last thing... your LCD problem is a SKIN problem... so you install what you prefer, but that's the skin you installed that will control the LCD writting...

If you "fine tune" your image, you need to do it from the beggining to the end, and not expect all will work straight... You should do the install with the built-in skin, and all should work... all what is related to the GUI/Screens/LCD is managed by the Skin, skin that could fail or require not supported Fonts, etc... then the problem is not the image, but you installing things and failing to fine tune them as just installing a skin is not enough, you could have to fine tune various other things after, LCD, Menus, Fonts etc.

So OpenPLi works great, if you start to "fix" it your way, you have to do all the way, and not only some bits. It's not the image fault but more you that didn't finished the Fine Tune Job.

Admin

Admin, thanks for your reply,
YES I, and probably everyone else likes to choose their own personal image. Agreed.

The Tips you guided me to I have read and observed, deleting Languages and ONLY installing ONE skin.
and then ONLY the Plugin I require , nothing that is NOT necessary.

So I did do ALL those things but still the Box kept crashing, BUT it is resolved now.Thanks

Regarding my Skin, I contacted Fairbird who MODIFIED the skin, he told it should be fine IN ALL OA images.
So I assumed it would be OK.

What I don't understand fully, is why Plugins that are offered in the Image "Dont work "either, for example EPGImporter, Weather etc


Cheers
AJP

The box will startup on the latest channel it was when you rebooted previously the box... naturally this until you set a "startup" channel on the channel list menu. At first boot, it will be on no channel and if you turn off the box directly from power and not reboot enigma2 on a DVB channel or IPTV, it will not remember the "last" channel to startup with.

I agree with you that all is not that's "simple", but in facts most of us just use the image as it, and we don't change the skin (we use the built-in) that is generally the main reason of most common problems such as failures/crashes. Enigma2 software is built "around" the Skin, and so both are completely in symbiosis... tricking/playing with one (eg. GUI Skin) will get the other one failing (enigma2, with green screens).

TS

TS,
thanks for explaining, you know me I am here to Help as much
as I can, my Posts are always very explaining of everything
I try to Fix.
I am ONLY saying a little less would be better.

I know you have ALL worked really hard to get this Forum up and running and the JAM compilation with 10 years sortiment of Tools and Plugins is extremely valuable and costly BUT perhaps a few of these are also outdated?

Anyway I don't want to make bad feelings, I just wanted to express my thoughts.
Cheers
AJP

It's good you give your opinion, the point is here there is all type of users, who can use an old DM500s box, as well as an only DM800HDpvr Sim 1.0, etc... So we keep all software for those who can also not buy a new Japhar sim (Many arrive here finding things for their old box impossible to find anywhere else, and then decide to upgrade the sim to use better software). They can do what they can, but still with our support/JAM they have things to use, if they want the level of Japhar then they can upgrade the sim in the box.

But, the logic is that they get at least their box to work, the minimal requirements (otherwise they will go somewhere else if they could even not use the "minimal", and we would loose them for a probable future upgrade to Japhar as they find out with time it's still a good deal to upgrade the sim, that improves in software a lot their old hardware box... if they are gone somewhere else, then they will be totaly lost for the Japhar Cause). Our logic of the encyclopedia and support of all DM boxes, pays... as often after some months or even years forum members upgrade their sim to Japhar, as they are finally convinced of the real interest to do it... we must not loose them going somewhere else or throwing away their box they consider useless... and cannot manage at least for the minimum of their requirements/needs.

Not everybody can buy a DM900UHD or new UHD box... it's much easier to spend the 30 Euro for a Japhar Sim, and improve considerably their box that was capable of the minimal TV things with older Sim 1.0 or unsupported ones... Sims pay the forum/feeds costs... and with time we convince old boxes users to get a new sim, keeping them here helping them and showing them that if they want more of it, a sim (software) can do the difference.

We hate the forums that "throw away old software" and box support... for us it's a lot of human time and work lost (and content that gets people coming here as only here they find things, also old) when we all know that we can improve the box keeping the hardware but just with new and/or good software.

All our content, also old, is a Magnet, that get more members, and more potential users of Japhar Sim (and so buyers, helping then to pay the costs of Servers/forum/feeds as we have no sponsors, no membership fee and we do all with our own pocket money and time).

We don't want to force the upgrade to the Japhar Sim... as there is "no more old software" available (removing it, cancelling it, wiping it). The old software is here, they find our forum that way and stay here enjoying the community, and it helps to do their minimum requirements, but since a lot happened on past years and software was improved a lot adding functionnalities, this generally get them wishing more from their hardware... then the sim upgrade is next for them (and will cover server costs for all to continue to enjoy the Japhar Community and Forum).

Admin

Hi !
Have OpenPli 7.2 on my DM800se and DM800SE v.2 and wonder if it will upgrade to 7.3 with online update,or do I have to flash the box to get it ?
Another problem is with online update from 7.2 all IPTV plugin like XCPlugin Forever Version / X-Streamity Plugin / Jedi Maker Xstream all will install.
After flashing the boxes with 7.3 none of this plugin will not install.
Have install flash expander.

Smokey

There were modifications on the software on 7.3 (from 2020.07.14), compared with 7.2 (or previous 7.3 from 2020.06.26).

The plugins could fail due to the new libraries perhaps ? You have to report the error messages, as it could be many things like also the Flash free memory available, etc.

TS