Admin, Thanks for your reply,
Answer to Q one, NO not Setup OR using hbbtv.!

I think you are right Image openPli4 IPTV v.23 was very old, BUT ran super good all this
time until recently, it started making problems, because Extensions were NOT compatible,
so it was time to move on, with better Kernel version.!

Also as you say for the "Extensions", Kernel update was necessary!

I still CANNOT get this DM800se to run keeps crashing, on every image I try.
All oPLi from 2020 - oATV 6.2 - 6.3 and 6.4.!
It's like the SIM is ALL screwed up and WILL not allow any changes.

I tried to Expand Flash BUT this should NOT be necessary really, with ONLY 5x Plugin,
JediMaker, Weather, JAM and EPGImporter, + Softcam and 1x Skin that,s ALL.!
Naturally my personal settings.!
I don,t use any other Extensions/Plugin.
BUT even that did NOT work and Flash Expender DID NOT install at all, only produced Green Crashes.!

The only other thing I can think of is that my JapharSIM was so old and the online upgrade
DID not work properly, so maybe its corrupted now.

One thing I can still try is to put back the original SIM 2.10 and Flash openATV 6.3 or look for an openPli7 for SIM 2.10.!!

Thanks
AJP

Did you tried to replace the Power Supply / PSU ? As you have a "general" problem, it could be due to such problem like low Amp due to old PSU... or something else on the hardware starting to have some issues.

For the latest image it works good, naturally as always new modifications are done by OpenPLi Team that could get the skins failing. So you should try it without changing skin and see if goes ok, and naturally flash from zero the box, assure yourself there is enough flash memory avaible as well. Concenring the Channel list, sometimes it could be get corrupted as well... so time to time a full scan of the satellites is recommended.

Concerning the Sim, put it on another MIPS box you have (like other DM800HDseV2 etc) on frontpanel (like a Pay-Tv sub card), and run the JAM Plugin (Japhar Support), at the end of the list there is the Japhar FrontPanel programming (using the frontpanel to reprogram the "failing" sim)... to the model of box you need. That way is more straight and could avoid any failure/risks.

TS

one more Question please Will JAM 5.3 work on openATV images?
Thanks
AJP

Yes, anything that is OE1.6 and OE2.x

Admin

TS, YES the DM800se V1 not V2 was downstairs in the Conservatory.
I am using to Flash and install everything Upstairs in my Study on a different PSU. I opened and cleaned everything inside with a Paintbrush.
The only thing I have noticed is that the Fan runs very loud..now.!
DO we need a FAN to be working?
CAN I disconnect it?

I asked Fairbird about his Turbo modified Skin and he says compatible with ALL OA images.
Also I have the openPli7.3Star on my original DM900UHD and ON ALL my Boxes with openPLi and openATV Images and the Turbo Skin is running absolutely great, NO issues or problems!

My "Personal Settings" are Modified by me, ever few Months, SO I always keep them updated.
This is as you know the biggest problem with the Hardware we use the Providers don't like us using Free Independent Boxes and keep changing the Channels and Transponders just to ANNOY us....especially SLY.UK they are the biggest/worst offenders.
It would be very unlikely that they are corrupted.!

Regarding the JapharSIM I put an openATV6.3 image back on into the Box this one:..
OpenATV-6.3-DM800SE-SSL84D-mod-by-Monja-061019
And then exchanged the SIM back to 2.10 version. So far looks OK.

BUT on this image their is NO Download Plugin Manager. A little stupid but OK.
I think I have two options, JAM5.3 and if that does NOT work "SatVenusManager" as.ipk File!

Thanks
AJP

Could your DM800HDse could have the power weakness ?

http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3698

TS

I remember reading about this wire solution between two connections.
As far as i know I DO NOT have this...NO

AS I type the dm800se has again crashed and is now NOT even re-booting, ONLY a Blinking Blue Light on Front above the Power Button.
I think this Box is Totally Screwed.
I will take the SIM and TB HDD and put it back in the Box. BASTA

Thanks for your Help and support again Guys.
AJP

Remove internal HDD, if you have USB dongles as well, and if you have smartcards on the frontpanel as well... You could even remove the Tuner board, and use it with IPTV Streams, to see if the box works OK as is.

Flash the box with the latest OpenPLi 7.3star, if you have the OpenPLi boot logo with the flower and blue background it means the drivers are OK with the Sim version.

And test like that the box, then let us know.

Admin

Admin,
Super Workaround, Thanks, I will Test ALL this again in a couple of Days,
Have spent too long at this already, am getting into trouble here.
Must make a few Days rest.
Will report back as soon as I can
Thanks
AJP

Hi Guys,
Decided to try this again today.
OK, I did some reading and searching on the Net and reached the conclusion that because
ALL the Images today are becoming BIGGER and our OLD DM800se from Ferrari times are still
the same Memory wise, this will cause problems.
I am NO expert on these Linux E2 issues BUT a little common sense goes a long way.!

Before I got this far, I had many many Green Screens and many, many new Flashes.
So many it was driving me Nuts.!!!

First things first, get an Image. I took this one:
openpli-enigma2-7.3star-dm800se_Japhar_v6_GStreamer_1.17.0.1_20200714

Secondly a little USB Stick, Formated to EXT4, (I took 1GB - big enough for most Plugins.)
Flash Expander - I could NOT find one to meet our requirements here in our JAM5.x,
so I downloaded ALL that I found on the Net.
This way I could Test them ALL, if the first one did not work.
You will have to Test and choose the one that suits your needs best.!

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Here is little workaround....How to.... with compliments of "enigma1969" Thank You.!

I have attached ALL the Flash Expander Versions I found below.!
A quick search with G****** will get you there.!


Extend your Flash memory to an USB memory stick:
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1. add an empty USB memory stick to your box (be aware the content will be deleted)

2. prepare your USB memory stick for FlashExpander
Menu
Setup
System
Storage device
choose your USB memory stick which you want to use for FlashExpander (be aware the content will be deleted)
Red Button: Initialize
after the USB memory stick is formatted do not mount it

3. Reboot your box (this is important also if you just use an already ext3 or ext4 formatted USB memory stick without initialize)

4. Extend your Flash memory using FlashExpander
Menu
Plugins
Start Flashexpander
choose your USB memory device and start the copy process (this takes a few minutes)
a message will appear to restart the box

5. check if FlashExpander is working
Menu
Plugins
Start Flashexpander

6. now you should have plenty of free Flash memory

New installed Plugins will be installed on extended Flash on USB

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Now you can go ahead and SetUp the Image and Plugins with your own personal Settings.
With lots of Flash Memory.!!

This openPLi like many of the new oPli Images are really very frustrating to Set up and
personalize, in fact its ridiculous. There are so many settings options missing for the "Channel Selection", "Button Setup" and "OSD Settings".!!

I don't want to blame anyone in particular but Please get this sorted.
I am already seriously thinking about going with other Image Teams.

The Plugins that are included in the image should WORK because they are Built inside to be
compatible BUT they ARE NOT, EPGImporter is one of these its absolutely useless.!
see attachment screenshot below.. total Garbage.!!!!

Weather does NOT work and has to configured by user, which means going into
DCC and FTP into.... etc/enigma2/settings and setting it up yourselves. Unless you
know HOW its pretty complicated.!

Skins another of my problems, In the JAM 5.x there are so many Skins but most are
Crap and Ugly...IMHO. I prefer something a little more Esthetic and Simple ALL the
Information needed for a Skin BUT NOT too much...NOT so much cluster, nice clear colors
and again NO useless Information.!

I use and have been using the "Skin-Turbo-MOD-By-RAED" for many Years and I always write and talk about it BUT its NOT on the JAM..!
Would be so simple to Check it over and put into JAM in a 100% working condition compatible at least for ALL the Images here.!!
If I had the time, patience and skills to do Skinner work I would do it myself.!

Every Image from here I try to install has Errors regarding the Plugins, nothing works out the Box.
Always means messing about with things like Pythons, Kernels and Telnet Cmds etc...things i know nothing about.
Many people are NOT inclined that way and just don't have the know how to do this. I am one of these persons.
My Talents lie elsewhere.!

Another example is the Time In Display, ALL it shows is the Day and a little Top part of the Time.!! Another Bug to Fix please.
see attached Camera Pics


Everyone is going into IPTV nowadays so it would be useful to have a good IPTV Plugin.
The one I use is the JediMakerXtream v.6, once you Set it up, its great and does its business all by itself,
even picking up EPG and picon from your provider if its offered.
Cant find it in our JAM5.x.!
Have to start searching and Testing compatible versions and Images again.!
The JAM should contain some, if NOT all of these basic Plugins.
(ones that work,and are 100% Image compatible)

There is so MUCH stuff in the JAM, BUT never what one needs! Sorry, Guys BUT its true! It needs sorting out.!

I don't know who is responsible for this our Great Team here or the opnPli Image Team.
BUT it should really be addressed and dealt with.!

I know and admire ALL the hard work that our Guys DO here, BUT something is wrong and NOT right,
maybe they are doing too much of many and everything and NOT enough of just one of something.!!

I also realize its difficult to cater for ever ones needs, many we are ALL different and have diferent needs, but important things should come first.

My motto in life has always been if you do something or anything do it right or don't bother to do it at all.

I know this is a Hobby for us ALL and we do it in our spare time, but even so we should be able to do better.

OK enough said, SO finally I have my Box working again NOT 100% as I want it BUT its running.

Every new Start from St/by shows ONLY the Boot Screen and I have to open Favourites to
get a Channel showing, OR I Set a particular Channel as Start-Up Service.
Then it starts regular, but it should normally start with the last Channel watched before switching off.
Also a very strange behaviour.

This has cost me a Big of nerves and three Days of my Life.
NOT very Happy about the whole outcome.
Thanks for reading and caring.
If the Admin find anything I have said to be NOT OK, Please Delete.!
Cheers
AJP


Flash Expander
1) enigma2-plugin-extensions-dflash_12.6_all
2) flashexpander_0.33-r0_all
3) enigma2-plugin-extensions-flashexpander_pli_0.1_mipsel
4) enigma2-plugin-extensions-image-flashexpander_1.0_all