Hi all
Is their a japhar sim for the d800se v2 clone?
running sim 2.2 just now, looking to upgrade/downgrade
and enjoy all the good images out there.
cheers
Byte

We are working on that version of Sim, when it will be available we will release the OS here.

You can always get the sim, and the PC/SC programmer, and the day we release the OS you can yourself reprogram your sim. Or you can wait the official release to order it at http://www.japhar.com/japhar/

TS

Hello!

I have Sunray4 HDse V2 sim 2.20, he used software for DM800HDseV2.

Can I change sim 2.20 with sim Japhar, what you recommend ?

Thanks !

Yes, you can upgrade your box removing the old Sim card and inserting the new Japhar DM800HDseV2,

You can find it at http://www.japhar.com/japhar/ as you are a member of the forum you have access to the eshop of the Japhar Team.

Then once the sim arrives, you will have by email the instructions on how to do the upgrade, and you will find all images on the DM800HDseV2 Japhar section below.

http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=49&page=1

Admin

OK thanks "admin" !!!
My receiver is clone , works with sim Japhar ?
If it works I'm going to buy one .

Yes, the sim works with original and clones no problem, you just need then to flash the new Japhar software

Admin

OK , thanks!
I have two question .
> You must change the socket for sim Japhar ?
> Here is the good ? https://jam3.japhar.com/japhar/index.php/product/dm800hdse-v2-nc3-japhar/

Yes, this is the good link, and no you don't have to change the sim socket on DM motherboard, you have nothing to do, just replacing the sim (doing as explained in the Tutorial), as you would replace the sim in a mobile phone,

TS

OK , thanks TS!
Remains to analyze the possibility of purchase.

Hi all !
Today I got the sim Japhar for Sunray4 HDse V2 (sim 2.20).



I proceeded as it should :
> Press the Frontpanel button to set into Flash Mode the box.
> Flash a ALLSIM SSL88 or Japhar SSL88J bootloader.
> Turn off the box.
> Replace the old sim by the Japhar sim.
> Turn on the box pressing the Frontpanel button to be in Flash Mode.
> Flash any Japhar DM800HDseV2 image.

Is fine , I no sees dvb C and dvb T .

How do I resolve this problem ?

The tuner is

Hello,

Where did you got the sim from ? As we don't package them with the MAC as it is on the photo.

Your Tuner is a Trial/Triple Tuner, so the images have only Single Sat Tuner or Single Terrestrial tuner drivers, you need then to update the image with the Trial/Triple Tuner to see it. Depending of the images, the Trial tuner driver could not work, and you will have by hand to modify the satellites.xml file. See infos on topics about that driver.

Trial/Triple Tuner Topic for DM800HDseV2 : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=13405#Post13405

Admin

" Where did you got the sim from ? As we don't package them with the MAC as it is on the photo "

- It is not ok sim Japhar , I was tricked ???

No, it's a right sim, but it's a strange packaging so it doesn't come directly from us.

Admin

it bought from here : japhar@softcam.ro .
It's not from you ???
I think I was tricked , price was eur 30 !

You were not tricked, it's Softcam.ro, they had bought few and resold at price cost. So all ok, but this confirms it's not coming from us directly.

The eshop (exactly at same price of the Team) is here http://www.japhar.com/japhar/

Admin

ok " Admin " thanks for informations !

Today I tested many img. for DM800HDse V2 , I came to the conclusion next :

With sim 2.2 I checked :

- Newnigma2_stable_eB_sim2_dm800sev2_v4.0.13.nfi ..... Triple tuner works OK
- Dream-Elite-4.1-dm800sev2-Jasper ..... Triple tuner works OK
- Merlin-3_OE-2.0-dm800seV2-Jasper ..... Triple tuner works OK

- Openpli-6.0-dm800sev2-sim2.2 ..... Triple tuner does NOT work
- OpenATV-iptv-dm800sev2 ..... Triple tuner does NOT work
- Opendroid-5.5-dm800sev2-Jasper ..... Triple tuner does NOT work

So it happens with sim Japhar , OpenPLI , OpenDroid , OpenATV does NOT work with triple tuner

You can change the img DreamElite , Newnigma2 , Merlin-3 work with sim Japhar ?

Thanks for all !!!

A short cut for you, on Japhar OpenPLi images, you can simply do as below, and you will gain the Triple/Trial Tuner compatibility directly from the Input/Services Setup (Satellite setup). So you can do it immediately and not wait for new patched images ;o).

This works with all images, and no need of installing new drivers (that could corrupt the image).

Admin

Hi !
I know this method , but I don't use it .
I want to use the driver for dvb C and dvb T , I will try to modify the driver .
Can I do this ???

You can try everything you want, sure,

Admin

Hi all !
This sim Japhar runs on DM 800 PVR ,or do they have another model ?

The Japhar Sim runs on :

- DM600pvr
- DM800HDpvr
- DM800HDse V1
- DM800HDse V2
- DM500HD
- DM520HD
- DM8000HD

BUT the software (OS) loaded is box compatible, so if you have a DM800HDseV2 Japhar Sim and you want to use it on a DM800HDpvr, you will need to reflash the sim with the Japhar OS for that box, that you can find on the Japhar Section of this forum under the OS/Drivers section.

To do such reflashing, we use the GCR2 programmer that is available at http://www.japhar.com/japhar/

Admin

I have reciver dreambox800se v2 and sim card japhar many many many many many many---- times I installed software openpli 6.0 works not correct without internet by lan and wifi,,,this is me opinion

Which Wifi are you using, PID:VID, it's well known that ALL the OpenPLi 6.0 are not working with RT3070/RT5370 dongles. It's a bug that OpenPLi is trying to fix. All other dongles, included the newest from Realtek/MediaTek RT7777, are perfectly working.

Then try our OpenPLi 4.0+, or 5.0+.

The LAN is working perfectly as well.

You need to use another Dongle,

Admin

ok,what is it? can you help to me ,,,I tasted software openpli 6,0 and openpli 5,0 ,,evry time is this same
the command opkg update receives errors from the repository, only the openpli 4.0 software works properly

All the Japhar OpenPLi have feeds available. If you get a 3rd-Party feed error, this is normal as there is no 3rd-Party anymore as OpenPLi doesn't support these boxes.

TS

Hi all !
I have an original DM 800 HD se receiver (sim A8P) .
can i use sim japhar on it ?
sim Japhar is nc3 v5 , the one presented above

Yes, you can "upgrade" your box to the Japhar Sim v6, just removing the chip and putting a simcard support and the Japhar Sim.

You can find all this at http://www.japhar.com/japhar/

Once you receive the sim, let us know and we will help you online to do the swap/switch safely.

Admin

Hi all !

I'll be back after about 3 years , all this time I failed to use Japhar sim .
I always get No ca found, or invalid image , because of this I gave up .I currently have another DM 800se ( clone ) receiver , is the rev.D11 sim 2.10
can someone explain to me what is the step by step procedure to put Japhar sim on this receiver ?

P.S. I mention that it is DM800se sim2.10 (possibly V1), not sim 2.2 (V2)

Thank you in advance !

Hello Andry,

Do you still have your DM800HDse V2 ?

Admin

Hi "Admin"
I no longer have DM800sev2 .
I have a simple DM800se sim 2.10 , I try to put Japhar on it, but I don't succeed .

You need to flash the sim for DM800HDse (v1), thru the Plugin Menu JAM.

So you flash the image below, in your box, and immediately after the SSL ALLSIM, you reboot the box and go on the Plugins Menu.

Image : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=18992

ALLSIM : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=290#Post290

And you go in the JAM menu select (if there is no JAM, install it, see instructions below) the second option in the menu, go a the end on the X_FrontPanel for the DM800HDse V1 (OS v6), and flash the sim.

Then you take out from the frontpanel the Japhar Sim and you replace the sim 2.10.

Admin

JAM Installation : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1377

I have been struggling for about 5 hours, I follow exactly the steps that the "admin" tells him.

At the end I try to put this image (openpli-enigma2-7.2star-dm800se_Japhar_v6_GStreamer_1.17.0.1_20200417), but after Reboot I get No Ca Found.

The image is not OK, what an image to try ?

You committed at least 2 errors... and didn't done at all what I wrote...

The image on the link is OpenVision 7.2 r18 (v6), and the second link is the ALLSIM SSL. As wrote you just had to flash the image then the ALLSIM SSL, and after reboot.

So you done all different from what was written. If you have the button on the back, then put back the Sim 2.10 is it's not there already, and do again as explained above. You will then have the box in the correct mode, to then use the JAM to flash the Japhar Sim on the frontpanel slot. Japhar Sim that then will be able to be used on DM800HDse V1 boxes (instead of the Sim 2.10), naturally with Japhar images (v3-v5 and v6).

Admin

I followed exactly the steps you said :

Install the image below "openvision-enigma2-develop-7.2-r18-dm800se_Japhar_v6" in the receiver, then do not Reboot receiver, but go back to the page and install "secondstage-dm800se-84-allsim", then restart the receiver , the required minimum settings are made, we enter the Menu >>> Plugins here we look for if we have JAM installed (Japhar Addons Manager, this: japhar-addons-manager_5.2_DM_oe20_mips32el) if it doesn't exist we copy it on a stick, we insert the stick in the receiver and- I install it with the help of the remote control.
After installation we restart the receiver, then enter the JAM menu, select the second menu option (Support Japhar Sim v3-v5-v6), go to the end of X_FrontSlot Sim Flash DM800HDseV1 v6 ​​>>> OK and rewrite sim ....., then turn off the device / receiver and change the sims.

P.S.
After I made all these settings I wanted to put another image, after installing another image it shows me No Ca Found .

So the process seems ok, but are you sure you seen all the numbers on the TV screen of the programming of the Sim from Japhar DM800HDse V2 to V1 ? Was the received connected on internet when you done that last step as it has to download the data from the JAM Feeds ? You probably had some failure during programming of the sim... did you put it on the right slot as there is 2 on the DM800HDse ? As it uses only the one indicated on the description of the JAM line you selected for Frontpanel programming. The Japhar chip must have the chip below looking down, as well as it must be first inserted.

I believe you failed the programming, and this is why you have such error... if you naturally installed the proper image, that is coming only from our folder below, just to be sure you done all steps right.

Images : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=48&page=1

As you know the section where we are right now is ONLY for the original images/box/A8P sim. So an image on this section WILL NOT work on the DM800HDse with Japhar Sim. This could be also the problem.

So you have two possible reasons, the programming failed, or wrong image used (naturally if we consider and we are sure you properly inserted the Japhar Sim instead of the Sim 2.10).

Admin

It looks like I succeeded, I'll try again tomorrow

Hi ...Thanks for the help !

In the meantime I checked some firmware, they are OK .
That didn't work : OpenPLi-5.0-Plus_IPTV-dm800se_Trial-Triple-Tuner-by_Japhar_Daily_v4-BETA
I mention that I also have a triple tuner, I can use it on the receiver whenever I want ,
but now it didn't work .

Yes, as mentionned the images v3-v5 and v6 will work (not v4beta). For the v4beta you would need to have the OS v4 in the sim, that was a beta software... that gave then birth to the v5 and v6 that are better.

You can get the v4beta image working as v6 replacing the bcm7405.ko file in the /lib/modules/..../extra folder by the one that is on a working image.

For the Triple/Test Tuner, you can install on most images the drivers for it from the section : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2606#Post2606

Admin

good morning all !!!

First of all, thank you to all those who were very helpful.
Is this Triple tuner driver ( tripletuner_2.0b-OpenPLi-4.0-Japhar_all ) can be used on other V1 firmware ?

It should work on all images, if the image is compatible Test/Triple tuner yes.

Admin

Hi all .... !!!

On some firmware it works well, on others it does not see the dvb-c, dvb-t2 tuner, it's not the problem, so far everything is fine.

With this Japhar sim can you go from V1 to V2 ?

Hello,

The Trial/Triple tuner driver (in fact it's 1 tuner, and you use 1 only, cannot use 3 simultaneously) is not compatible with all images. There is a trick setting up the xml file inside, to avoir this issue, you have all explained on that tuner posts on the Driver section.

See : http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9539

Personally I prefer to have a single Sat Tuner on the box, and a USB Tuner (Terrestrial) on the USB port, this way I have real 2 x Tuner.

For the difference of the v1 and v2, it's hardware differences, more RAM and more Flash... On v2 you have 512 Mb Flash and 1 Gb RAM... on v1 you have 64 Mb Flash, 128 Mb or 256 RAM. So changing the sim/software will not upgrade a v1 into a v2 as it's hardware related.

Admin

Hi all !
Thanks for the very good answers , I used that trick on DM800se sim 2.2, I didn't like it.
I use Vu+solo2 tuner on usb ( GENIATECH MyGica USB TV tuner Stick T230C DVB-C T2 DVB-T HD ) , works very well .
The same tuner on the DM800se does not want to work , I installed the driver, I put it in and it doesn't want to be manually ..... under any circumstances .

If it doesn't want to work, then the image is not compatible, with the tuner/driver. You should change image to find one compatible... or your trial/triple tuner is defective.

Admin

I remember that on DM800se sim2.2 I had the same problems, but with DreamElite firmware it worked.

In the coming days I will try other firmware, to find something that is ok.

There is two different families of images, the DMM and the Open (OpenPLi/OpenATV etc).

The DreamElite is a DMM such as Nemesis, NewNigma2, etc.

The driver was destinated to the DMM images, but it worked on some Open (but not always, the trick of the satellites.xml file was useful).

Admin

Hellooo !!!
I understand, thanks for the good information .
do you have firmware from the DMM range ?

You will find below all images for DM800HDse V2 with Japhar Sim,

http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=49&page=1

On that list you have Open images (OpenPLi, OpenATV, PurE2, BlackHole, etc), and DMM images such as NewNigma2.

For original box, you have here images, but none are for DMM... http://www.ourdreambox.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=171&page=1

DMM support stopped many years ago for the DM800HDseV2, and the enigma2 is at least 5-6 years old, and perhaps even more...

Open images (including the enigma2 for open images) are very new, still from 2020.

Generally the patch is not too difficult if you have images for other sim for DM800HDse V2, you need to replace the SSL (flash image and flash the SSL for your sim, eg SSL89J for Japhar) and the bcm7405.ko file in /lib/modules/.../extra.

Admin

Hi all !!!
Thanks "Admin" , very good information .